Brutain i know Sub. we have been doing well with assassination so i use it for 2's i hope that this is not a problem. I do not see the problem with using both specs? sub is my main we were just trying it out i hope you do not misunderstand what i am trying to say i know what i am doing and i am not even focusing on arena atm i am trying to get my rated bg titles, so i do not believe that arena has anything to do with getting in the guild seeing as i would be running arena with the guild i would only be running bg's and i would be running Sub so please do not mistake me for a inexperienced player. thanks.